Ray rice cut

[cravnravn]

Had Rice been given 6 games he would still be a Raven. On every point about the Ravens and the Commish you are 100% correct. Look at the slap on the wrist for Irsay but the owners are held to a higher standard. #firegoodell

 

Im telling ya, the owners group is like the Mafia, you are not going to get one cornered and have one go rat on the other 30 owners...Look at Jerry Jones and those pics that were all over the net a few weeks ago..Funny you hear not one word about his conduct anywhere now.

[cravnravn]

Had Rice been given 6 games he would still be a Raven. On every point about the Ravens and the Commish you are 100% correct. Look at the slap on the wrist for Irsay but the owners are held to a higher standard. #firegoodell

 

And the other thing that gets me, is if the NFL gave him two weeks, that to me means there was little evidence on Ray, but if they gave him 2 weeks and they were aware of the footage and still gave them 2 weeks, then they should be investigated, from Goodell on down.

[papasmurfbell]

Agreed. It just shows Goodell is a liar and does as he is told by the owners.

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And the other thing that gets me, is if the NFL gave him two weeks, that to me means there was little evidence on Ray, but if they gave him 2 weeks and they were aware of the footage and still gave them 2 weeks, then they should be investigated, from Goodell on down.

It looks more and more that they had it. And agreed about that investigation.

[Spen]

No holds bared.

 

I agree, no holes should be bared on this site.

 

Sure it is.

 

Thanks, I'll try to stop from posting anything that could be construed as a prediction. You know what, I bet I am going to succeed!

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I agree, no holes should be bared on this site.

 

 

I haven't seen the porn on this site. Is there a NSFW area?

[Spen]

I haven't seen the porn on this site. Is there a NSFW area?

 

Just Cravn's inbox.

[tsylvester]

I agree T, and the more i fester this the more pissed off I get, Ive already texted my Cuz and told him he can HAVE my 4 tickets to Tampa, I dont want to go, this have affected me in a bad way..I hate being lied to, and to have some mickey fuckin mouse company like TMZ expose a giant, the ALMIGHTY NFL, well that just gets my goat..

 

 

Personally, I think he originally should ave gotten a year, send a message; even if they didn't see the tape, they had his confession, they had part of the tape, it was clear what happened. Now, by back tracking, I sure hope the union does their lazy part and fights for 1) Wes Welker and Josh Gordon to be reinstated and 2) fights for Ray given the points I outlined; he already paid THEIR price.

 

 

Oh and I doubt I will watch the game thursday, not that it will make one ioda difference. But just as baseball chased me away, a person who as a young boy used to keep game books as games were played, who played through highschool, the NFl is chasing me away. I doubt I will miss seeing the game thursday, I am sure there is a college game on one of the chanels....

[papasmurfbell]

I don't have access to that area.

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Personally, I think he originally should ave gotten a year, send a message; even if they didn't see the tape, they had his confession, they had part of the tape, it was clear what happened. Now, by back tracking, I sure hope the union does their lazy part and fights for 1) Wes Welker and Josh Gordon to be reinstated and 2) fights for Ray given the points I outlined; he already paid THEIR price.

I think they will reinstate him before long. The problem is I don't think anyone will touch him now.

[Spen]

I don't have access to that area.

 

No, there's no NSFW area here. I was just goofing on sending him porn via the site's messaging system.

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And the other thing that gets me, is if the NFL gave him two weeks, that to me means there was little evidence on Ray, but if they gave him 2 weeks and they were aware of the footage and still gave them 2 weeks, then they should be investigated, from Goodell on down.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2280164

Goodell doesn’t believe his job is on the line

In the wake of a call from Senator Heidi Heitkamp that Commissioner Roger Goodellshould resign, Goodell addressed his job status during an interview with Norah O’Donnell of CBS.

While not part of the interview that was televised during the CBS Evening News, O’Donnell explained to anchor Bob Schieffer that she asked Goodell whether his job is on the line.

“No,” Goodell told O’Donnell. “I’m used to the criticism. I’m used to that. Every day, I have to earn my stripes.”

Most calls for Goodell to resign have arisen from the suspicion that the NFL saw the video that was released by TMZ on Monday before suspending Rice only two games. Goodell insisted that the NFL did not have access to the video.

“I got into the office [on Monday] and our staff had come to me and said, ‘There’s new evidence. There’s a video that you need to see.’ And I watched it then,” Goodell said. “We had not seen any videotape of what occurred in the video. We assumed that there was a video. We asked for video. But we were not granted that opportunity.”

So how did TMZ but not the NFL get the video?

“I don’t know how TMZ or any other website gets their information,” Goodell said. “We are particularly reliant on law enforcement. That’s the most reliable. It’s the most credible. And we don’t seek to get that information from sources that are not credible.”

But there are other reliable, credible sources than law enforcement. Did the league ask Rice to produce the video via his lawyer? If not, why not? Did the NFL ask the casino at which the incident occurred for the video? If not, why not?

Those questions weren’t asked. Also unasked, and unanswered, were questions regarding the specific law-enforcement agencies to whom the requests were made, and what those agencies had to say.

So while Goodell has addressed conclusively and credibly the question of whether the league had the video before Monday, the league continues to avoid the question of why the video wasn’t obtained. Unless and until that question is fully and completely answered, the controversy will linger and possibly grow, and public confidence in the NFL will not be fully restored.

If you have to say you are in a good place then there is trouble brewing.

[dc.]

The storm over goodell is brewing. I could see him going down over this.

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I so hope he does.

[thesteelhurtin]

I would dance an Irish jig.

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http://92q.com/3830774/ray-rice-nfl-coverup/

 

 

“When you wake up tomorrow, go to the website, our website, and you will see what the NFL didn’t do,” Levin said.”I believe they turned a blind eye to it. The NFL knew this surveillance video existed, they knew the casino has surveillance video, and we will explain [on Tuesday] why we know they knew that … but they did. They didn’t do anything to look at this video.”

[Tornado700]

 

IMO I feel the NFL notified the Ravens of their intension of suspension, and put the ball in the Ravens court.

You're exactly right.

[cravnravn]

I think they will reinstate him before long. The problem is I don't think anyone will touch him now.

 

The owner of the Pats, Kraft was on good morning america yesterday, He said no way the Pats would touch the womanbeater..And he also stated that the NFL DID NOT get to see the tape of the elevator..I figure thats just a cover up for the Mafia Boss

[papasmurfbell]

The league is circling the wagons.

 

I heard a really good idea. Condi Rice as the new commish.

[colincac]

All of this talk of the NFL and Ravens turning a blind eye to the Elevator Video is absolutely idiotic. These organizations definitely could've done a better job at getting access to it, but they knew it existed and thus knew it would be released eventually, they wouldn't have purposely avoided viewing it. The actual story is that Ray and Janay told a version of the events that made Ray look a lot better than he did in actuality, and given Ray's fantastic community service, etc., in the past... everyone involved rightfully believed him. In addition, law enforcement SAW the video and let him enter the diversion program. Given that, if you're the NFL or the Ravens... don't you also assume the video 'can't be that bad'?

 

Not defending the fact that they didn't get it themselves, but given the facts and Ray's history, I would've been ok with the 2 Game suspension and not given into TMZ's likely insane monetary demands for the video.

[papasmurfbell]

I am thinking they thought this was business as usual on regular DV cases. Basically don't talk about it and it will go away. TMZ have robbed them of that. Tmz or someone else this vid was coming out.

[Robjr83]

Loving some of these memes

 

 

 

 

[Tornado700]

All of this talk of the NFL and Ravens turning a blind eye to the Elevator Video is absolutely idiotic. These organizations definitely could've done a better job at getting access to it, but they knew it existed and thus knew it would be released eventually, they wouldn't have purposely avoided viewing it. The actual story is that Ray and Janay told a version of the events that made Ray look a lot better than he did in actuality, and given Ray's fantastic community service, etc., in the past... everyone involved rightfully believed him. In addition, law enforcement SAW the video and let him enter the diversion program. Given that, if you're the NFL or the Ravens... don't you also assume the video 'can't be that bad'?

 

Not defending the fact that they didn't get it themselves, but given the facts and Ray's history, I would've been ok with the 2 Game suspension and not given into TMZ's likely insane monetary demands for the video.

 

Thank you for bringing some sanity back to this board.

[papasmurfbell]

They either intentionally avoided the tape or ignored what was on it. The NFL has way to many resources to not be able to get their hands on it. Hell they could have compelled Ray to turn it over to them. At some point Goodell will be asked if he requested it from Ray's team.

[tsylvester]

All of this talk of the NFL and Ravens turning a blind eye to the Elevator Video is absolutely idiotic. These organizations definitely could've done a better job at getting access to it, but they knew it existed and thus knew it would be released eventually, they wouldn't have purposely avoided viewing it. The actual story is that Ray and Janay told a version of the events that made Ray look a lot better than he did in actuality, and given Ray's fantastic community service, etc., in the past... everyone involved rightfully believed him. In addition, law enforcement SAW the video and let him enter the diversion program. Given that, if you're the NFL or the Ravens... don't you also assume the video 'can't be that bad'?

 

Not defending the fact that they didn't get it themselves, but given the facts and Ray's history, I would've been ok with the 2 Game suspension and not given into TMZ's likely insane monetary demands for the video.

 

 

 

You do understand that it isn't about the cutting of him, nor the suspension, but their lack of forethought, their inability to see that when the video would come, there would be major backlash, based on the original video and Ray's statements to them.

 

Thus, if the Ravens were going to cut him, they should have done it back in Feb, not this week. If the NFL ws going to BREAK THEIR OWN RULES and suspend him indefinately, they should have done it back in Feb, not this weekl.

 

That is what has me and many, many others who know football, who know the rules, so ticked off.

 

Goody, when he made the choice to suspend Rice for 2 games, claimed it was the max he could give him. The Ravens, when the suspension was announced, claimed they were sticking by Ray and would bend to the league for discipline.

 

If 2 games was the max under the rules, how is it, Goody can now circumvent said rules and on Ray's first offense, suspend him, not six months as the rules state, but indefinately?

 

How can the Ravens cut him, when they were going to stand by him?

 

Oh, that is right, all because what he did was caught on tape, not because of what he did. Proof? The tape backs up almost exactly as Ray & Janay outlined. Don't buy into their, the league nor the Ravens, excuse that the two watered down their confession. Seeing her unconscous, seeing Ray act like it was no big deal, on camera plus their version is pretty easy to see what transpired in the elevator, with out seeing the tape.

 

Knowing there was a tape, and not thinking; hmmm, intoday's society, that tape will come out, is ludicrous if they expect any sensible adult to buy the excuse that they couldn't get the tape or just took the law's and league's decision as justice....

 

So go ahead, your choice to keep giving your money to the people who will do what ever they wish and treat you like a non-thinking person.