Great And Absolutely Fabulous I Told You So Flacco Article In Bleacher Report

[cravnravn]

What's hysterical is that you two can't even comprehend what i'm comparing? at this point in there careers means (right now) , eventually i see Wilson being more accomplished and overtaking Rodgers, do you two nimrods comprender now? and what does comparing Wilson and Rodgers have to do with Joe?

You ain't back pedaling out of this, YOU compared Wilson after 3 years to rogers, and was put in your place when mad man informed you that after 3 years in the league rogers was riding the pine. Rogers, Wilson and Joe have 1 ring a piece you need to throw manning in there as well.

[cravnravn]

Yet this is likely still Flacco's best season statistically (2010 is the only argument to the contrary) and Wilson's worst. That's the point.

And Joe still has 6 games left vs some very soft defenses, but that will those two haters excuse as Joe gets near 4000 yards.

 

Joe is 2-1 ratio TD's to picks where as last season with absolutely no weapons at all he had more picks then TD's. 2-1 ratio is what you want your qb to achieve.

[OneManCypher]

Flacco is a robotic QB with no feel for the game, if everything on the play is perfect: the protection, the route running, the defense against, then Joe has the arm talent to complete the pass, but let something not be right and the robot runs to right every time and rarely makes a play out of nothing. I've seen this guy throw incomplete passes and Int's when he could have very easily run for a first down. No feel.

[dc.]

Flacco is a robotic QB with no feel for the game, if everything on the play is perfect: the protection, the route running, the defense against, then Joe has the arm talent to complete the pass, but let something not be right and the robot runs to right every time and rarely makes a play out of nothing. I've seen this guy throw incomplete passes and Int's when he could have very easily run for a first down. No feel.

 

I've seen a lot of QBs attempt a pass when they could have run for a first down.

[cravnravn]

Flacco is a robotic QB with no feel for the game, if everything on the play is perfect: the protection, the route running, the defense against, then Joe has the arm talent to complete the pass, but let something not be right and the robot runs to right every time and rarely makes a play out of nothing. I've seen this guy throw incomplete passes and Int's when he could have very easily run for a first down. No feel.

Show we a right handed qb that doesn't roll to the right or a lefty that doesn't roll to the left. If Joe rolled to the left and threw back across his body then you haters would really have a field day,because every one of those across the body passes would be picked off.

[papasmurfbell]

It is very hard for a righty to roll to the left and throw. He has to set if he does it.

[cravnravn]

It is very hard for a righty to roll to the left and throw. He has to set if he does it.

 

Absolutely, but your buddy don't think that way, saying he's a robot and only rolls to the right.

[papasmurfbell]

Most QB's who can do that are running QB's. I have seen Vick throw some beautiful balls doing that. Rodgers and Wilson also have thrown some. I would not expect Joe to be able to do that well.

[cravnravn]

Most QB's who can do that are running QB's. I have seen Vick throw some beautiful balls doing that. Rodgers and Wilson also have thrown some. I would not expect Joe to be able to do that well.

 

Yes manning and Brady can't do it either ;)

[papasmurfbell]

Yep.

[rastaman831226]

 

See, now you're arguing my side. Joe's contract is burdensome. Those contracts are burdensome. But that doesn't equate to being bad contracts all by itself.

 

You see, logic is a process here by which you build one truth or claim on top of another. We don't just get to lump claims together and decide they are all true at once.

 

Meanwhile - of course Joe's contract is the most burdensome to the Ravens. Who is arguing that? All I said is that there are many burdensome contracts in the league, but we evaluate contracts by more than just how much of a burden they are - we also evaluate how valuable they are in terms of the person signed.

 

You can say I'm trying to spin - that's fine. But if you pay any attention to my posts on any topic, you'll find I'm just more interested in having a clear discussion, which many are incapable of. Here's what I'm getting at - Joe's contract is a burden. Few will deny that. So the issue then becomes is he worth the burden? Which means we are getting back to the same stupid argument we always have here about how good Joe is. I call it stupid not because I am on one side or another, but simply because we have it all the damn time and the words never change. So what I'm really griping about here is that this article simply provides one more avenue to have the same conversation but pretends it's a new conversation. It's not.

You need a shovel.

[OneManCypher]

LOL, once again you people haven't a clue as to what i'm talking about, you just are so quick to defend the robot. You buy time running to either side, i never said anything about rolling out and passing on the run. I've seen plenty of right handed QB's run to the left set there feet and complete passes, but our Robot only knows how to run to the right because he is a robot. All of you would do exactly what Joe does, which is when the pocket breaks down or you need to buy time (run to the right) , i see why you are defenders of Joe now because you think just as he does , like a robot. pressure comes, roll to the right, regardless of where your receivers are, regardless of where the pressure is coming, regardless of where there's open space ,just roll to the right because i'm right handed, no feel as i said, just being a dumb robot. like "Playing Quarterback in the NFL for Dummies"

[varaven45]

While we are addressing Joe and his burdensome contract, does anyone have constructive ideas on the FO might pursue as next QB ?

Jay Cutler, RG III, and Andy Dalton might be hitting the unemployment line next year. Or future picks like Jameson Winston (FSU),

Marcus M (Oregon) and other future scramblers with 1-2 yr shelf lives might be available in next years draft,

 

Not exactly a smorgasboard of current or future QBs out there.

[papasmurfbell]

I can see a FA as an immediate replacement but in the long term I see the draft.

[OneManCypher]

If Joe takes a big enough pay cut , there is no need to get another QB, we have won a superbowl with the guy and went to the post season with him 5 straight years, we are just not going to win another one with the money he makes now because he is not worth it. but if he doesn't take a pay cut, you draft a qb, we have pieces already , with the money you save on Joe you get more pieces. Just because Boller didn't work out , you don't let the thought of him hinder you from pulling the trigger on another qb, just do the proper scouting this time. Joe and Wilson won while still on there first contract, thats how you're going to have to win superbowls unless to have an elite qb, with a young qb and a great surrounding cast, you might have to go through some growing pains but there's a better chance winning that way as opposed to riding with an overpaid robotic Joe, who doesn't have enough around him to win again because he makes too much money

[Spen]

Some idiot must have just learned the word robot.

[Spen]

Some idiot must have just learned the word robot.

[GrubberRaven]

Geronimobot?

[oldno82]

Crap! Is this thread still alive??

[papasmurfbell]

If Joe takes a big enough pay cut , there is no need to get another QB, we have won a superbowl with the guy and went to the post season with him 5 straight years, we are just not going to win another one with the money he makes now because he is not worth it. but if he doesn't take a pay cut, you draft a qb, we have pieces already , with the money you save on Joe you get more pieces. Just because Boller didn't work out , you don't let the thought of him hinder you from pulling the trigger on another qb, just do the proper scouting this time. Joe and Wilson won while still on there first contract, thats how you're going to have to win superbowls unless to have an elite qb, with a young qb and a great surrounding cast, you might have to go through some growing pains but there's a better chance winning that way as opposed to riding with an overpaid robotic Joe, who doesn't have enough around him to win again because he makes too much money

I agree with that.

[dc.]

You need a shovel.

How about some conversation partners that can understand rational thought.

 

Robots - like only able to process a single command and unable to actually critically consider?

[cravnravn]

LOL, once again you people haven't a clue as to what i'm talking about, you just are so quick to defend the robot. You buy time running to either side, i never said anything about rolling out and passing on the run. I've seen plenty of right handed QB's run to the left set there feet and complete passes, but our Robot only knows how to run to the right because he is a robot. All of you would do exactly what Joe does, which is when the pocket breaks down or you need to buy time (run to the right) , i see why you are defenders of Joe now because you think just as he does , like a robot. pressure comes, roll to the right, regardless of where your receivers are, regardless of where the pressure is coming, regardless of where there's open space ,just roll to the right because i'm right handed, no feel as i said, just being a dumb robot. like "Playing Quarterback in the NFL for Dummies"

Why did you change your name Geronimo?

[rastaman831226]

How about some conversation partners that can understand rational thought.

 

Robots - like only able to process a single command and unable to actually critically consider?

You don't really want conversation and I don't do mindless drivel. Not grounds for any kind of discourse.

[RavenMad]

I don't do mindless drivel

 

lmao, isn't that all you do?

[dc.]

If a and b then c. We've all established a. That leaves us with b. But b is where the argument has been all along.

 

That's mindless drivel.