GrubberRaven Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 In critical condition after a motorcycle accident. Sounds dire... http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Byrne-Identity-Ravens-Devastated-By-Tray-Walker-Accident-Harbs-Sends-Heartfelt-Letter-To-Team/3056e70f-616d-4309-9be3-d4e6cd286ff5 Quote
GrubberRaven Posted March 18, 2016 Author Posted March 18, 2016 Not good http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/blog/ravens-talk/tray-walker-agent-gives-update-hospital-client-not-doing-well Quote
TBird Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Damn motorcyles - A good friend of mine was killed on one. A car zoomed out from a side streetforcing the pickup in front of him to hit the brakes. Billy's bike hit the pickup and was thrown over it.At the funeral parlor you could see where neck was broken and head was just kind of laying vs the necklike it was completely broken. He made it to shock trauma but die later in the evening. Had he beendriving a car he'd still be alive. It was a very violent death. I was in traffic court and the judge gave a guy the max penalty he couldgive him for speeding on a bike. Quote
thundercleetz Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Absolutely devastating. Looked like a residential street, not busy at all. Could have happened to anyone. Very sad. Quote
dc. Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Not to judge, but report: hearing no headlight, dark clothing, not sure who had right of way Quote
Tornado700 Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Not to judge, but report: hearing no headlight, dark clothing, not sure who had right of way Who cares? This topic is about mourning his loss. Quote
dc. Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Who cares? This topic is about mourning his loss.In response to Cleetz remarking on the innocuous scene. Quote
GrubberRaven Posted March 19, 2016 Author Posted March 19, 2016 RIP... sounded like a great teammate and person. Shame. Quote
oldno82 Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Just f--kin terrible! My heart goes out to his family and friends. Quote
Preacher Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Just heard about this on my home forum and wanted to come on over and offer my condolences. Times like this we're reminded football's just a game and there's real human beings wearing opposing colors and jerseys. Also, props to John Harbaugh for his heartfelt letter. Well-written and tasteful, which is difficult to achieve with that kind of letter under these circumstances. Quote
cravnravn Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Thanks Preacher, Very sad day for his family. Quote
vmax Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Just heard about this on my home forum and wanted to come on over and offer my condolences. Times like this we're reminded football's just a game and there's real human beings wearing opposing colors and jerseys. Also, props to John Harbaugh for his heartfelt letter. Well-written and tasteful, which is difficult to achieve with that kind of letter under these circumstances. That is one fabulous message. Lead in your home. Take care of Your Family and Yourself every single day. Think about who you are and where you are going, and what you stand for. Look after one another. Only then can you be your most effective on the job and in every area of your life.Please consider your actions and choices. There are always consequences. Choose who you allow to advise you. Consider the quality of the council you take. Put yourself in positions to succeed. Turn away from unnecessary and risky behavior. Take care of your physical well-being. Live a healthy lifestyle. Pursue those things that make you better. Rest well. Eat well. Laugh with those who you love and love you. Fulfil your obligations effectively.Be your own best friend. Do not be an enemy onto yourself. Turn away from trouble and harm. Walk away from foolish behavior. Ignore silly and unwise advice – You’ll know it when you see it.Get to know those people in your life who manage to walk free from the weight of self-created obstacles. Get close to those who have gone where you want to go, and have accomplished what you want to accomplish. Grow Spiritually. Think about what and who you want to become.I am asking you to consider what is at stake in your life. Consider what your thoughts, actions and choices mean to those around you. Live your life fully and with purpose. Have fun and share your happiness. Find Your Faith, and allow God to Grow Your Faith.Let’s look out for one another. Be a great brother and friend. Inquire. Listen. Ask. Investigate. Reach out. Be There. Take a Step. Go For It.Remember, We are Brothers in Arms. And, again, take care of each other.John Quote
varaven45 Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Very well done John Harbaugh ! We are very, very fortunate to have him as our coach. Quote
Robjr83 Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Coaching as several different aspects. Harbs will always be questioned as a GameDay coach... but as a mentor, motivator and leader I think not Quote
thundercleetz Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Not to judge, but report: hearing no headlight, dark clothing, not sure who had right of wayRight, what I was implying is irrelevant of those factors you mention we all know residential streets that are rarely traveled upon. Sometimes, unfortunately, we might not come to a complete stop at stop signs on these streets, or not be as focused on the road as we normally might be. More than half of car crashes occur within five miles of home. Regardless of who's fault it was, possibly this was an instance of one or both parties not expecting anyone else to be on that particular road. Tragic reminder that we all need to stay cautious no matter what road we are on, even if it is a very familiar one close to home. Quote
Tornado700 Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 None of us were that familiar with Tray since he was a rookie last year, but after reading all the articles about him, it appears that not only was he a good guy but a player who would have probably been at the least, a starting nickel for the Ravens. It appears that Tray Walker was well liked by the Ravens entire organization. Rest in peace young man. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Honestly I look at this as a win for Darwinism. If you aren't smart enough to wear a helmet then you aren't smart enough to survive. Quote
cravnravn Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) Honestly I look at this as a win for Darwinism. If you aren't smart enough to wear a helmet then you aren't smart enough to survive.It's not a Darwinism, its a choice. The state of Florida gives you choice as to wear a helmet or not. With that said, helmet or not he wouldn't have survived Edited March 19, 2016 by cravnravn Quote
dc. Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 I disagree with both statements. Helmet may well have saved his life. But not every mistake needs to be fatal; the raw luck that comes into who gets away with simple mistakes and who pays greatly for them has always baffled, unsettled me. His death can be both a tragedy and a lesson to those lucky enough to have gotten away with the same error. Quote
cravnravn Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 I don't know DC, 2 humans with helmets on colliding is one thing, a human with a helmet taking on a 3500 lb piece of plastic and metal and speed factor would produce an impact greater then what the safety of that helmet could provide. 100% agree on your last statement, there is a valuable lesson to be taken from his tragedy. Quote
thundercleetz Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 Very sad read... Tray was an outstanding young man with his head screwed on straight. He was doing all the right things for someone in his position. http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-ravens-tray-walker-folo-0320-20160319-story.html Quote
papasmurfbell Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 It's not a Darwinism, its a choice. The state of Florida gives you choice as to wear a helmet or not. With that said, helmet or not he wouldn't have survivedI watched a video yrs ago. Down in the amazon a baby egret was being reckless and getting to far from the nest. It fell in the water and the piranha ate it. The video went on to say how that bird could no go on and pass genes along to a new generation so now the egrets would be more naturally cautious. That is Darwinism. That bird like Tray made a reckless decision and now can't pass on its genes. Quote
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