papasmurfbell Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Larry Fitz will likely be available. I know Ozzie was trying hard to get him a few years ago, now, I hope he doesn't. Fitz has lost several steps. Draft is the way to go, these guys are almost can't miss now a day, not even the Ravens could mess them up...........Stay away. He is almost done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Agree there Fitz is definitely finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 I am listening T, just not buying your theory, you want an instant impact player, you better be drafting 1-20. It's not really a theory any longer. This past year proves it out. we seen glimpses over the past few years of receivers who normally struggle their first 3 years, being impact players right away. This next draft class will be even better. 8-10, maybe even 12 receivers who can step right in to a team in need. Slot guys go even deeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 It is not too early to talk draft either. I named some very good receivers, who have great hands, great speed, and perhaps more importantly, more quicks and body control than anyone currently on the team. I figure the Ravens need one of them, a tight end, athletic, a middle backer, a safety, corner help and pending what they do with their free agent defensive linemen, one of them too,,,,, in that order, thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I see the top need as WR/TE. A dynamic playmaker. Gilmore is sort of a possession guy. Whichever position is available when they are around they need to look seriously at. With Mosely Smith and Brown I don't see a huge need at the middle. They have drafted a safety high the last 2 drafts. Plus they have Hill. Jimmy coming back will help at CB. So I see the needs at 1a and b as WR/TE, 3 CB, 4 QB backup or of the future if Joe gets bullheaded in 2016, 5 OLB, 6 DE, 7 and random depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 OK T, we pick 26th this April, find us a gem at 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Dorial Green-Beckham*, WR, Oklahoma Height: 6-6. Weight: 220. Projected 40 Time: 4.55. This is the high risk high reward guy. He can be had easy for the Ravens since he was thrown off OU. This is the type of guy the Ravens need though. Jaelen Strong*, WR, Arizona State Height: 6-3. Weight: 212. Projected 40 Time: 4.52. This would be a solid pick. It wouldn't be a Beckam type but he would help.He should slide to 26. He seems like Torrey but more upside. Kevin White, WR, West Virginia Height: 6-1. Weight: 210. Projected 40 Time: 4.40. He should slide to 26. He seems like Torrey but more upside. Devin Funchess*, WR/TE, Michigan Height: 6-5. Weight: 230. Projected 40 Time: 4.64.This would be an intriguing pick to team with Gilmore. Pharaoh Brown, TE, Oregon Height: 6-6. Weight: 250. Projected 40 Time: 4.69. I like this as an option. Maxx Williams**, TE, Minnesota Height: 6-4. Weight: 250. Projected 40 Time: 4.63. I figure if th eRavens go high for a WR or TE it will be with Williams. Nick O'Leary, TE, Florida State Height: 6-3. Weight: 247. Projected 40 Time: 4.64. Clive Walford, TE, Miami Height: 6-4. Weight: 258. Projected 40 Time: 4.70. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenMad Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I really like Strong from ASU. He is the kind of WR you can chuck it up for grabs and he comes down with it a lot. That's the sort of WR I feel we should be targeting. I need to do more research on TEs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robjr83 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 With several holes Oz can make an impact somewhere. My gut says go offense even though need is in the secondary. FA we can get some mid level FS/SS draft a CB and we'll have a healthy Webb/Smith/Asa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Jimmy will help with the secondary so that is not as great a problem. It does need so real depth though. I can't see the Ravens being in the walking wounded league again next yr. This yr was an aberration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 I don't think White will last to the 26th pick. He has Julio Jones type talent, some, Cris Carter, have compared him to Randay Moss with a better work ethic. Strong is likely to go in the top 15 (maybe top 10) also, along with Cooper from Bama who should go top 5... However, there are many the Ravens could target at 26 for wide out who can come right in and make a huge impact next season. The big question will be what they do wth all their free agents, especially my favorite, McPhee. If he walks, they might look to fill his role with some one like Dupree from Kentucky, who has played defensive end and outside backer. He has the size, 6-4, 264 and the speed to go along with a good wing span and leaping ability to fight off blockers, to get around the edge. He would be a good replacement for McPhee, who is more versitile however. But Dupree is a smart cookie, he could pick things up quickly. Pending his pro day and the combine, he is currently slated for the 2nd, but at 26, he would be a good pick. I would hope the Ravens go after or "rank" either Shaq Washington from Cinci, who has bliserting speed & quickness, great body control, big strong hands and is not affraid to give his body up nor to fight to make a catch. or as Papa mentioned, tight end Pharoh Brown from Oregon. Where he will go is a mystery right now as he is recovering from a broken leg. Julius Thomas comes to mind with him,a great talent, though not the best blockers. Lippet from MSU is another option for wide out. Or Gerod Holliman, safety from Louisville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 It is so very early yet so these rankings and positions will change dramatically. We will know much more by the end of March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenMad Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 If he is still around in the late 4th to 5th rounds I would like to see us pick Buck Allen from USC. He looks like he is a perfect fit for Kub's system. He runs like Forsett but with a bit more power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 If he is still around in the late 4th to 5th rounds I would like to see us pick Buck Allen from USC. He looks like he is a perfect fit for Kub's system. He runs like Forsett but with a bit more power. They are going to need a RB somewhere in the draft, preferably around the 5th round. Taliaferro has what it takes but you always need to back up a RB. I haven't seen Touissant do much at least so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I think Pierce is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Yeah I think he's gone too. Not a good fit for the zone blocking offense. He needs an offensive line that plows straight ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Actually, Forsett is perfect for our offense. He may not field any better offers than we can offer and maybe he'll be back for one more go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I expect Justin to take the money if it is better elsewhere. He has never had a payday. He is past where a RB falls apart. I think they will have to let him test the market and if it is not to high they can bring him back. I would not go higher than $4 mil per. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Got to bring McPhee back. Suggs and Dumerville are ageing.They had an outstanding season...but let's not get caught flat footed if they get old and slow all at once...which could happen as soon as next season. Bring Forsett back. Draft a running back. Have Torrey check the market and then sign him. I think he'll be right price. I don't know how the find a #1 receiver. Maybe they get lucky in the draft because the great ones in free agency will be out of the Ravens price range. Obviously they need 4 new faces in the secondary. They also must get a pass catching, chain moving TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 So McPhee gets 4 yrs $48 mil with 15 upfront, Justin gets 3 yrs $46.5 12 upfront, and Torrey gets 5 yrs $40 14 upfront you think the Ravens should follow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 So McPhee gets 4 yrs $48 mil with 15 upfront, Justin gets 3 yrs $46.5 12 upfront, and Torrey gets 5 yrs $40 14 upfront you think the Ravens should follow? That's too much money. Here's a great article by Preston on this subject... http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-preston-ravens-column-0113-20150112-column.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I think McPhee has some real money coming his way. It is hard to say with RB's now. Their value is in flux at the moment. Someone could come strong to him. I could see Oak going hard for Torrey. They run a vertical attack and that is what he does best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I think McPhee has some real money coming his way. It is hard to say with RB's now. Their value is in flux at the moment. Someone could come strong to him. I could see Oak going hard for Torrey. They run a vertical attack and that is what he does best. True...but I think they are leery of Maryland players after Heyward-Bey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Being leery of MD players did stop them from taking DHB after drafting the OT they drafted who was super fast in the 40 but sucked as a football player. Also Torrey has shown he can play. He has put up numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado700 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Papa-can you do us a favor and lose your spacecraft. It burns my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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