tsylvester Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 56 minutes ago, papasmurfbell said: If he gets the exclusive tag its 45 mil. But even with the Ravens offer he had 133 mil at signing and probably more by the end of the 1st yr. That is a very big difference. Well, they've been in Miami talking things over all day, still not close. 2 possible landing spots off the table, though the Saints weren't really a realistic spot with so little draft capital. My guess is he plays chicken, gladly signs the tender for that cash since it will be guaranteed, then bolts next year. There is a chance the Ravens trade him, but the only real team in position is Atlanta, maybe Texans, but no way he signs the tender to go play for the Jets, in that weather? The wind in that stadium is far worse than here and we know how he struggles to throw in the wind. Not too mention how he plays bad in cold and rain.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 If Woody decides he will break the bank he will sign there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubberRaven Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 After the past two seasons, what if he gets dinged up and decides he can't play anymore? Sits out. $45 down the drain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dapetes Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, GrubberRaven said: After the past two seasons, what if he gets dinged up and decides he can't play anymore? Sits out. $45 down the drain He decides he’s dinged up. Maybe he’s a child that doesn’t want to go to school. I don’t feel good Harby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 T minus 6 hours, I guess the only real question is, which tag? Are we really expecting a good night of sleep is going to change the minds of either Lamar or the Ravens? Maybe Ozzie should take Lamar to McDonalds, seal the deal with a big Mac and shake... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Here is an excellent piece on why the Panthers are not a real option That doesn’t mean they should act. Panthers coach Frank Reich said at the combine the Panthers will explore every option at quarterback. Like Carolina, any quarterback-needy team is likely checking in on the price of both trading for Jackson and what a realistic contract extension is. And that’s what makes acquiring Jackson so complicated. His value is more subjective than NFL front-office members or agents want to admit. What is not overly complicated is explaining why Jackson does not align with Panthers’ plans. Carolina has been here before, flirting with a veteran quarterback seeking a new lucrative contract. In 2021 it was Matthew Stafford. A year ago: Deshaun Watson. Last spring, The Observer reported the Panthers could have landed Watson but were unwilling to meet Watson’s desired contract guarantees. On Monday, The Observer reported Carolina wasn’t prepared to meet quarterback Derek Carr’s $35 million per year demands. Carr signed a four-year, $150 million contract with New Orleans on Monday. If Carolina was reluctant to overpay for quarterbacks before, why would that change for Jackson? https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article272826820.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Jets are in heavy talks with Rogers, & the Pack, Jets flying out (pun intended) to meet with them. Stay tuned... Could rule them out of a Lamar trade... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubberRaven Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 He just received a non-exclusive tag at $32mil...Lamar needs to see if he's worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Or has it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeshopper Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubberRaven Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Could be a reality check for him. If we end up with two 1sts, atleast we may not be in cap hell for the foreseeable future 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 Zrebiec..... Quote Even at the combine, it was very hard to get a handle on a potential trade market for Jackson if that’s the direction the Ravens go. Quarterback-needy teams like the Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts and Carolina Panthers seem more likely to draft their guys. Other organizations, like the New York Jets and New Orleans Saints, seem focused on other veterans who should come cheaper than Jackson in terms of either the contract or the draft capital necessary to acquire him. I also heard either directly or indirectly from a few other teams that just don’t have the appetite for trading multiple first-rounders and/or players for Jackson, and then giving a fully guaranteed deal to a player who has struggled to stay on the field the past two years. Here’s the thing, though: It only takes one team to have legitimate interest, and it’s hard to believe there won’t be at least one. How tagging Lamar Jackson could impact the Ravens’ other roster decisions - The Athletic Zebiec • — Today at 3:44 PM Lamar Jackson will be able to start talking to teams Monday when the legal tampering window opens. [3:56 PM] Brian McFarland (@RavensSalaryCap) 2/ ️Franchise tender of $32.416M counts immediately against the Ravens Cap tho they do not have to be under the Cap til 3/15 @ 4:0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) The $32.5 mil is lower than what Lamar can get this year with a new contract and therefore it provides him incentive to get a deal done. The Ravens have a good shot at matching any offer. Quote Just because the Ravens have applied the franchise tag doesn't mean negotiations on a long-term contract are finished. The two sides have until July 17 to negotiate and complete a deal before Jackson would have to be on the tag for 2023, once signed. Whatever happens ... I want a team once the dust settles. I don't want Lamar at the cost of a great defense, special teams and rushing attack. Edited March 7, 2023 by vmax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Well, he will find out pretty quickly how much the rest of the league thinks he is worth. This should be fun, well done Eric! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Reports out now, Falcons, Panthers not interested in trading for Lamar... come on Washington, pony up, a first round, 2nd, and Sam Howell plus a 3rd next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Giants signed Jones, 4 years, $160 mil The Giants made the moves just ahead of Tuesday's 4 p.m. ET deadline for NFL teams to use their franchise and transition tags. Jones will make $82 million guaranteed at signing as part of the deal, which also includes up to $35 million in incentives, sources told ESPN's Jordan Raanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 So now we wait a week before he can start talking to teams about a deal. Then wait a few hours for him to file with the NFLPA about collusion, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 2 hours ago, tsylvester said: Well, he will find out pretty quickly how much the rest of the league thinks he is worth. This should be fun, well done Eric! No. Eric should have gotten 3 first rounders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, papasmurfbell said: No. Eric should have gotten 3 first rounders. Nope, they would prefer to keep him at their rate, so let him find out just what his rate, actually is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 The Falcons are joined by the Miami Dolphins, Carolina Panthers, Washington Commanders and Las Vegas Raiders as teams not pursuing a deal with Jackson, per Field Yates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Hmmm...I guess we're not the only ones not seeing $200 mil guaranteed as obscene. At least so far. What potential suitors are left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Oh it starts, Watt, Clarke, RG Greed say league is colluding https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-11833647/JJ-Watt-Ryan-Clark-Robert-Griffin-III-suggest-NFL-teams-colluding-against-Lamar-Jackson.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeshopper Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, tsylvester said: Oh it starts, Watt, Clarke, RG Greed say league is colluding https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-11833647/JJ-Watt-Ryan-Clark-Robert-Griffin-III-suggest-NFL-teams-colluding-against-Lamar-Jackson.html They are not smart men. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubberRaven Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 So what if they are colluding? ONE team gave an obnoxious deal to a mid tier QB who demonstrates sexual predator tendencies. Five or so QBs have gotten new contracts since Watson's and NONE are guaranteed. If Lamar had a damn agent this shit wouldn't be happening. The owners have EVERY right not to bankrupt their PRODUCT because of one dumpster fire of a team. F the NFLPA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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